So there are some discussions about cleaning guns while they are still hot and also using gun oil when the metal is still warm/hot.
Is there any possible benefit?
I’m trying to test the gun oil on warm/hot metal scenario right now to see if there is more penetration and therefore better protection and lubrication.
I did a preliminary test with Remington Rem oil and a steel bar heated to 135 degrees. I used a heat gun to heat the steel bar. I then placed a few drops of Rem Oil on the 135 degree steel bar. The Rem Oil boiled/sizzled off. So 135 degrees is too hot for Rem Oil. I then tried it at 124 degrees. It boiled off again.
I let the steel cool off to about 104 degrees and then applied a few more drops of Rem Oil. It did not boil off or sizzle like before. I then spread it evenly with a few patches. I’m going to see how well it resists corrosion via a daily water spray. I’ll compare it to a section of steel that was not heated, with Rem Oil being applied in the same manner. My goal is to see if the heated application resists corrosion longer than the non-heated application.
I will perform a lubrication test also…as soon as I get the steel bar stock.
FrogLube CLP is an excellent cleaner, lubricant and protectant. I’ve used it for many years. Let’s put it to a metal wear test and see how it compares to other gun oils.
I used 2 pieces of 6061-T6 aluminum alloy in the gun oil wear test. Basically a smaller aluminum sled is slid against a larger base numerous times and then the 2 contact metal surfaces are analyzed. I use aluminum because it is softer than steel and will wear more easily and faster. You can see the smaller block of aluminum or the “sled” on top of the larger base.
Here’s a better view of the aluminum base and sled. The surfaces of the aluminum are polished with 400 grit sandpaper to provide a uniform finish which makes it easy to see any resulting wear.
Here’s the FrogLube CLP Paste. It’s easy to apply, has a very pleasant smell and is non-toxic. I’ll apply it to the top surface of the aluminum base and the bottom surface of the sled with a few clean patches.
This is after the test was completed. I performed 75 cycles. One cycle is the forward and back motion of the sled on top of the base. No downward pressure is applied, only the weight of the sled creates the friction and wear. You can see the froglube on the base. It has pooled or gathered together in the center. It may look like too much was applied but this is not the case. As I performed the test, I could feel how slippery the Froglube CLP was. It’s much more slippery than most oils.
Here’s the 2 contact surfaces after the test was completed. The discoloration is due to the froglube and aluminum particles combining. Aluminum is very soft compared to steel. Let’s clean the sled off and see how much wear occurred.
I used an old sock and FrogLube CLP to clean the surfaces. FrogLube CLP is a great cleaner.
This is a closeup of one side of the sled. You can see the very slight wear resulting from the test. It is much less than most of the other oils and CLP’s.
This is a closeup of the other end of the sled. Very little wear.
Conclusion: FrogLube CLP Paste is an excellent lubricant. It is very slippery. I have not tested an oil or CLP that is better than FrogLube CLP. If you want to try out FrogLube CLP, here is a link….FrogLube CLP at Amazon.com. You can try either the paste or liquid, they both work the same.
Ballistol CLP is a very popular CLP and if you use corrosive ammo, it’s a must have. Let’s see how well it reduces metal wear. I have used it on my Zastava AK-47 and it performed very well.
Here’s the Ballistol CLP and a gun cleaner, Otis General Purpose Blend to clean the surfaces after the wear test.
Here’s the heart of the gun oil metal wear test…2 pieces of 6061-T6 aluminum alloy. The base is 0.5″ x 4″ x 24″ and the sled is 1″ x 4″ x 6″. The sled is moved back and forth on top of the base…the movement is like a gun action. Both surfaces are polished with 400 grit sandpaper. This finish is rougher than any firearm but it makes it easy to see wear without performing a large number of cycles like 10,000. This makes comparing oil performance easy. If a gun oil performs well with this soft, rough aluminum alloy then it will really shine on a smooth hardened gun action.
Let’s get into the gun oil test.
I applied a few squirts of Ballistol CLP on the base and then the sled. Then I spread it evenly with several patches. I wiped the excess off with 2 more patches.
Having the Ballistol CLP evenly spread and excess wiped off, I can start the test. It’s very simple…I slide the sled on top of the base for 75 cycles and then examine the wear. One cycle is the forward and back motion of the sled. I do not apply any downward pressure, only the weight of the sled creates the friction/wear.
Here is a close up during the test. You can see the Ballistol streaks.
This is the bottom of the sled after the test has been completed. I’ll clean it off so you can see the wear areas.
I placed a few drops of Otis General Purpose Blend gun cleaner on the base. You can see it instantly cleaned the areas where the drops are.
Here’s the sled with a few drops of Otis General Purpose Blend cleaner. The large blob in the center is the cleaner. It’s very effective.
A few clean patches and the sled and base are very clean…thanks to Otis General Purpose Blend.
Here’s a close up of one end of the sled. You can see a small area of light wear. Ballistol performed very well.
This is the other end of the sled. There is very little metal wear.
Conclusion: Ballistol CLP is a very good lubricant. It reduced metal wear better than most gun oils even though it is a multi-purpose product. My only reservation is the strong smell and need for a well ventilated area in order to use it.
I’ve used FireClean CLP on my Zastava MPAP AK-47 and it seemed to work great. It cleaned everything well and lubricated too. Let’s see how good FireClean is at reducing metal wear, scientifically.
Here’s the FireClean CLP and the test equipment…6061-T6 aluminum alloy base and sled or test block. I use 6061 aluminum because it is much softer than steel and will show wear much faster. The test consist of lubricating both surfaces of the base and sled and then sliding it back and forth like a gun action. Then analyze the surfaces for wear or scratches.
Here’s a topside view of the wear test equipment. All surfaces are polished with 400 grit sandpaper and cleaned before each test.
Here is a mid-stream photo during the wear test. I end the test after 75 cycles. One cycle is one back and forth motion.
Here’s the bottom surface of the block or sled. Let’s clean it off and see how much wear has resulted.
You can see 2 areas of wear…far left side and far right. FireClean is a pretty good lubricant and did well in this test.
Conclusion: FireClean CLP is a good lubricant that also cleans and protects metal against corrosion. I would rate it 3.75 stars out of 5 stars. It’s not the best lubricant but is far from the worst. It’s also non-toxic and has no odor. I do like FireClean. If you are interested in trying it, here is a link to buy some online….FireClean CLP at Amazon.com
I tested a few CLP’s over the weekend and one of them was Otis Bio CLP. The test was a metal wear test where 2 pieces of metal are lubricated and then slid against each other like the action of a gun. The surfaces are polished before the test and then inspected after the test to determine how much wear resulted. I use 6061-T6 aluminum alloy for this test because it shows wear much faster than the harder steel alloys.
Here is the setup. The base is a .5″ x 4″ x 24″ extrusion of 6061-T6 aluminum alloy. The sled is another piece of 6061 with dimensions of 1″ x 4″ x 6″.
The surfaces of the aluminum alloy are polished with 400 grit sandpaper.
Both surfaces are lubricated with the test oil/CLP. A very thin film is all that is needed. Then the smaller block or sled is slid back and forth on top of the larger bar. 75 cycles are performed. One cycle is one forward and back motion.
Close up of the sled and 24″ base.
Here is the sled after the test. Very little wear and I knew this before the test was completed. When I was performing this test, I could feel how slippery the Bio CLP was. It’s great stuff! Let’s clean it off and see how much wear there is.
Here’s a close up of one side of the sled with very little wear.
Here’s the other end. You can see a little wear.
Conclusion: Otis Bio CLP is a fantastic lubricant. It is very slippery, much better than most gun oils or CLP’s. Bio CLP also cleans very well and doesn’t smell. If you want to give this stuff a try, here is a link to buy it online….Otis Bio CLP at Amazon.com
G96 has been around for a long time and offers all kinds of firearms maintenance products. I decided to give them a try at my gun oil wear test. So I bought a small bottle of G96 CLP Synthetic Oil.
I use 2 pieces of 6061-T6 aluminum alloy to do a metal wear test. Basically I slide one piece of aluminum on top the other and measure the wear. I use a 24″x4″x0.5″ as the base and another piece 4″x6″x1″ as the sled. You can see the base behind the G96 CLP bottle. The reason I use 6061 aluminum alloy instead of steel is because aluminum is softer and will show wear quickly as compared to steel.
Here’s what the setup looks like…
The base and the sled both have gun oil applied to the contact surfaces and then the sled is moved back and forth on top of the base like a gun action. I perform 75 cycles and then examine the surfaces for wear, scratches or galling.
Let’s look at the G96 CLP Synthetic Gun Oil test.
Here is the aluminum base with several drops of G96 CLP Synthetic Oil on it. I use several patches to spread the oil evenly before testing.
Here is the sled on top of the base half way through the test. You can see some discoloration on the base. The oil is mixing with microscopic particles of aluminum plus the CLP is probably pulling dirt out of the metal.
Here’s a closeup photo…
Let’s move to the end of the test, after 75 cycles.
Here’s what it looks like before cleaning.
Here is the sled after cleaning. You can clearly see scratches and wear.
Conclusion: G96 CLP Synthetic Oil is a good lubricant but certainly not the best. There are several CLP’s and gun oils that surpass it at reducing metal wear. However it does reduce friction and wear much better than bare metal and it does clean metal surfaces very well.