Gun Cleaner vs Gun CLP – Cleaning Test

So which gun product cleans better…Cleaners or CLP’s??

Let’s test them to see which product cleans more effectively.

I use a simple gun cleaner test consisting of a flat steel bar, smokeless powder, cleaning patches and a gun cleaner or CLP. I burn 2 or 3 charges of smokeless powder on the steel bar and then apply a gun cleaner or CLP to the fouling. I let it soak for 10 minutes. After the 10 minute soak, I take several cleaning patches and wipe the area clean or at least attempt to.

First the Gun CLP – Breakfree CLP

Now let’s watch a straight gun cleaner at work – Mil Comm MC25 Gun Cleaner.

Hoppe’s GunMedic Cleaner and Lube Test Video

So how well does Hoppe’s GunMedic Cleaner and Lube work? The only way to really know the truth is to test it scientifically. If you watch someone clean a gun or barrel with a gun cleaner, can you really determine if the cleaner works well? NOT REALLY.

I do scientific tests when it comes to gun cleaners and gun oils. For gun cleaners, I burn some powder on a piece of metal and then clean it with a gun cleaner. You are able to see how well it works because everything is in the open unlike the bore of a gun barrel. It will either wipe clean easily or it won’t.

Here’s my Hoppe’s GunMedic Cleaner and Lube test video.

Gun Cleaner Test – Hoppe’s No 9 Black

Hoppe’s latest gun cleaner is the No 9 Black High Performance Gun Cleaner.

So how well does this new fangled gun cleaner work?

Let’s test it on burnt-on powder residue…

I use a simple gun cleaner test composing of a metal bar, smokeless powder, gun cleaner and some cleaning patches.

Here’s the setup…

First I’ll clean the steel bar thoroughly before burning the powder on it. After cleaning the bar, I add about 40 grains of H4831 smokeless powder to the steel bar and then ignite it. I repeat this 3 times to make sure there is a good amount of fouling/carbon buildup. Then I’ll attempt to clean it.

Here’s the first powder charge.

Here’s the 3rd powder burn – the flame temperature is over 850 degrees F.

This is the result of 3 powder burns. There is a lot of carbon and other powder residue. Now I’ll spray a liberal amount of Hoppe’s No 9 Black High Performance Gun Cleaner on it and let it soak for 10 minutes.

Notice how much gun cleaner is on the fouling. Don’t scrimp on gun cleaner application. More will soak better and make cleaning easier.

Enough gun cleaner has to be applied so that it can penetrate through all of the fouling to the bare metal.

This is a closeup after the 10 minute soak. The Hoppe’s Black Gun Cleaner has penetrated all of the fouling. See how wet it still looks?

Here’s the first wipe. The carbon is removed easily…no scrubbing. Let’s do another wipe.

Does Hoppe’s No 9 Black HP Gun Cleaner work well? You bet!!!

If you want to try Hoppe’s No 9 Black gun cleaner, here is a link…Hoppe’s No. 9 Black High Performance Gun Cleaner at Amazon.com

Clean Guns While Still Warm or Hot?

Should you clean your guns while they are still warm/hot from shooting?

While fouling may be easier to remove when guns are warm or hot, the higher temperature may cause your gun cleaner to evaporate before it has a chance to soak into the fouling/carbon. Gun cleaner soak/penetration is much more important in gun cleaning. If the gun cleaner does not penetrate the layers of carbon and powder residue, it will not remove it.

The ideal gun cleaning scenario is to submerge the barrel and action in gun cleaner at a temperature of about 90-95 degrees for an extended period of time(hours).

2 critical aspects of gun cleaning will make or break it.

  1. Use a gun cleaner that is water based or with a low viscosity(not oil or alcohol or acetone based).
  2. Soak time of 10 minutes, while wet.

Slip2000 725 Gun Cleaner Test

Slip2000 725 Gun Cleaner is a non-toxic water-based cleaner and degreaser. I have used it in the past on my Glocks and it worked really well but I never really new how well, so I decided to test it.

I use a simple test for gun cleaners. It’s composed of a metal plate or bar, smokeless powder and a gun cleaner. I burn several charges of gun powder on top of the metal plate and then apply a gun cleaner to see how well it removes the fouling and residue.

Let’s take a look at the gun cleaner test setup.

Here’s the typical gun cleaner test setup/equipment. The first thing I do is clean the test bed which is the aluminum plate/bar. Then I pour a 50 grain charge of H4831 smokeless powder on top and ignite it.

Hodgdon’s H4831 is a slow burning powder, so it’s pretty safe to experiment with.

Here’s the 1st powder charge. I’ll ignite this one and then do it all over again 2 more times. This provides a good amount of fouling that is pretty hard to remove easily.

I use a long grill type lighter to ignite the powder.

You can see how slow this powder burns. It takes about 3 seconds to burn.

Here’s the result of 3 charges of H4831. There’s a pile of carbon that is stuck to the metal test media. Let’s see how well Slip2000 725 gun cleaner removes this.

I’m applying the 725 gun cleaner to the fouling, spraying it on very heavily and then letting it sit for 10 minutes. This is the key to cleaning carbon fouling. You have to let it SOAK.

Here’s the fouling soaking. I’ll try wiping it clean after 10 minutes.

The fouling “pushed” to the left easily when I used the cleaning patch to wipe the area. The Slip2000 725 gun cleaner loosened the fouling, so it could be wiped off easily.

There you have it…nice and clean. Slip2000 725 gun cleaner is AWESOME. It’s also totally non-toxic and safe to use indoors. There is little to no odor and it’s clear. Great product!! If you want to try it out, here is a link….Slip2000 725 Gun Cleaner/Degreaser at Amazon.com

 

Hoppe’s No 9 Synthetic Blend Ultimate Bore Cleaner

I’m glad to see Hoppe’s has a non-flammable, biodegradable No 9 bore cleaner available….Hoppe’s No 9 Synthetic Blend Ultimate Bore Cleaner.

Let’s see if it works as well as the original Hoppe’s No 9 Bore Cleaner.

I’ll burn some smokeless powder on a metal bar and then see if Hoppe’s Ultimate Bore Cleaner can remove it easily…without brushing or scrubbing.

Let’s take a look at my gun cleaner test setup…

Here’s the Hoppe’s No 9 Synthetic Blend Ultimate Bore Cleaner. I wish it came in a bottle with a squirt tip instead of a wide mouth. Dipping bore brushes and patches into the bottle is not a best practice and you can’t pour with a wide mouth bottle without a mess.

This is my gun cleaner test setup…metal bar to simulate gun metal parts, H4831 Smokeless powder, lighter, cleaning patches and gun cleaner.

Hodgdon’s H4831 smokeless powder. It’s a slow burner so it’s pretty safe to experiment with in the open.

Here I’m cleaning the surface of the metal before the test. I wear nitrile gloves to protect my skin from the gun cleaner. Now i’ll add some powder to the metal bar.

Here’s the 1st powder charge. I’ll burn it and then add another charge and burn that. I burn 3 charges of powder in order to get a good build up and to get it to burn into the metal pores.

Here’s the first burn. I’ll skip to the final product to show you what the powder fouling looks like after 3 charges.

Here’s the mess. Now lets pour some Hoppe’s No 9 Synthetic Blend Ultimate Bore Cleaner and let it soak for 10 minutes.

I had to use a spoon to pour the cleaner onto the fouling. Pouring straight from the bottle would be too messy.

Here’s our fouling mess soaking. I’ll come back after 10 minutes and try to wipe it clean without scrubbing or brushing.

After 10 minutes, I used several clean patches and wiped across the fouling with very little pressure. Most of the fouling wiped off easily. The outside edges however did not but I think that was due to the fact that the outside edges did not get thoroughly soaked with cleaner.

The center section is spotless. Hoppe’s No 9 Synthetic Blend Ultimate Bore Cleaner is very effective and is non-flammable and biodegradable. It does not have a strong odor either. It you are interested in trying some, here is a link to buy it online….Hoppe’s No 9 Synthetic Blend Ultimate Bore Cleaner at Amazon.com

 

Hoppe’s Gun Medic Cleaner & Lube Test

Hoppe’s Gun Medic is a cleaning and lubricating spray on product.

So how well does it clean?

The only way to know for sure it to test it right?

Hoppe’s Gun Medic vs H4831 smokeless powder residue

Let’s take a look at the test equipment…

I use a metal base (6061-T6 Aluminum alloy) that is finished with 400 grit sandpaper for the gun cleaner test. I pour about 50 grains of smokeless powder on the metal base and then ignite it. I repeat this 3 times to make sure there is a good amount of stuck-on powder residue. I then apply gun cleaner and let it soak for 10 minutes. I then attempt to wipe it clean.

Let’s get started…

Here’s the Hoppe’s Gun Medic, H4831 smokeless powder, cleaning patches and lighter. H4831 is pretty slow burning so it’s pretty safe to experiment with.

I always clean the metal base before starting the gun cleaner test. Here I cleaned the surface with the Hoppe’s Gun Medic before starting the test. You can see that some dirt/oil/cleaner residue was removed from the metal base. Now let’s add some gun powder.

Here is the H4831 smokeless powder…about 50 grains.

…ignition.

This is a close up of the burnt powder residue. It’s stuck pretty good on the metal base. Now let’s try to clean it with the Hoppe’s Gun Medic gun cleaner.

I sprayed the powder residue thoroughly and will let it soak for 10 minutes.

Here is the powder residue soaking. It’s pretty saturated.

After 10 minutes, I try to wipe the metal base clean. The heavy carbon wipes somewhat easily off but not cleanly. There is a lot of yellowish residue and some carbon that does not come off. The Hoppe’s Gun Medic evaporates and therefore does not penetrate well. It’s also a combo product, meaning it’s a gun cleaner and lube. Combo or multi-purpose gun products typically do not perform well at any one task.

Here’s a close up view. It just did not clean well. It might be a good product for the field where you need something quick to flush out loose powder and dirt. Hoppe’s Gun Medic did not perform as well as some of the other straight gun cleaners. If you want to check it out, here is a link…Hoppe’s Gun Medic Gun Cleaner & Lube at Amazon.com

 

Hoppe’s Boresnake Venom Gun Cleaner Test

Let’s see if Hoppe’s Boresnake Venom gun cleaner works as well as the Boresnake.

I’m going to burn some smokeless powder, H4831, on a metal base and then apply the Venom gun cleaner and see how well it removes burnt on carbon/powder residue.

Let’s take a look at the gun cleaner test setup…

It’s a simple yet effective gun cleaner test. I clean the metal base with the gun cleaner then pour out about 50 grains of smokeless powder and ignite it. I repeat this 3 times to get a good amount of residue burnt onto the metal base. Then try to clean it off.

Here’s the H4831 powder used in the test.

First I’ll clean the metal base with the Hoppe’s Boresnake Venom Gun Cleaner.

As you can see the Venom gun cleaner did remove some dirt left over from another test. Now the metal base should be clean and ready for the test.

Here is the first charge of H4831. I’ll ignite this and then pour another charge in the same spot and ignite it. And then do it one more time.

Here’s the result after 3 charges of H4831. It’s pretty heavy with powder residue and carbon. Now I’ll apply the Hoppe’s Boresnake Venom gun cleaner to this carbon pile.

Here is the powder residue with a liberal amount of Hoppe’s Boresnake Venom gun cleaner applied. It’s going to soak for 10 minutes.

…10 minutes have passed. You can see the gun cleaner ran to the bottom of the metal base. Now let’s try to wipe it clean with a few clean patches.

Presto…the carbon and powder residue wipes off like magic. No scrubbing or brushing.

Conclusion: Hoppe’s Boresnake Venom Gun Cleaner is an excellent carbon and powder residue cleaner. It soaks in and under the fouling making it easy to remove. I recommend it. If you are interested in the Venom Gun Cleaner, here is a link….Hoppe’s Boresnake Venom Gun Cleaner at Amazon.com

 

Gun Cleaner Test – FireClean CLP/Gun Oil

Is FireClean CLP a good cleaner for firearms?

Let’s test it and see how well it does cleaning burnt on powder residue.

Gun Cleaner Test - FireClean CLP

Here’s my gun cleaner test setup…metal surface, smokeless powder and gun cleaner. Let’s get started…

Gun Cleaner Test - FireClean CLP

First I applied some FireClean CLP to the surface of the metal bar as you would with a firearm. I spread it evenly with several patches and then wiped off the excess. Then I’ll add some H4831 gun powder and ignite it…not once but twice.

Gun Cleaner Test - FireClean CLP

Here’s the first charge of smokeless powder…about 50 grains.

Gun Cleaner Test - FireClean CLP

H4831 is pretty safe to burn since it’s a slow burner. It does have a lot of energy though.

Gun Cleaner Test - FireClean CLP

Gun Cleaner Test - FireClean CLP

Here’s the burnt-on powder residue from the first burn.

Gun Cleaner Test - FireClean CLP

Here’s the residue after the 2nd burn. I added a liberal amount of Fireclean CLP on top of the fouling and will let it soak for 10 minutes. Then I’ll try to wipe it clean.

Gun Cleaner Test - FireClean CLP Results

The powder residue did not wipe clean easily. You can see what did not come off.

Gun Cleaner Test - FireClean CLP Results

Conclusion: FireClean CLP is a good lubricant and protectant but cleaning powder residue easily is not where it shines. But it is better than no cleaner if you are out in the field. FireClean CLP is a non-toxic, environmentally safe CLP that doesn’t smell up the house and is safe to touch. If you are interested in trying some on your guns, here is a link…FireClean CLP/Gun Oil at Amazon.com

 

 

Gun Cleaner Test – Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner

Foaming gun cleaners seem to be the latest and greatest BUT are they?

…Do they really clean in one application?

…let’s do a test

…Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner vs burnt on H4831 powder reside.

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner

Here’s the test setup….clean metal surface, smokeless powder and foaming bore cleaner.

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner

I pour about 50 grains of H4831 onto the metal surface and then ignite it. I’ll do this a 2nd time before cleaning

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner

Here’s the 2nd burn

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner

Here’s a closeup of the burnt on powder residue. Now I’l apply the Gunslick foaming bore cleaner and let it soak for 1 hour.

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner

Gunslick foaming bore cleaner is applied and allowed to work for 1 hour.

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner

Here’s what it looks like after 1 hour. I’ll wipe it with some clean patches now.

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner Results

The burnt on powder residue easily wipes off. I’ll use some more patches to clean it better.

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner Results

Nice and clean now. Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner is a powerful solvent and it actually etched (removed surface oxidation) the aluminum surface. You can see the lighter colored area where the Gunslick foaming bore cleaner was applied.

Gun Cleaner Test - Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner Results

Here’s a closeup.

Conclusion: Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner does what it’s claimed to do. It is a powerful solvent and will clean carbon and powder residue in one application. If you are interested in trying it, here is a link to buy it online…Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner at Amazon.com